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Post by DavidH on Apr 29, 2004 22:51:46 GMT -5
Several stations have already received a mention for consideration (along with reasons). Here they are, all in one place, even if we haven't yet figured out how we are going to be able to judge one from the other: • WFIT (Melbourne, Fla) • WRNR (Anapolis) • 947 "The Arrow" (DC) • WUIN (Wilmington, NC) • WZEW (Mobile?) • KMTT (Seattle)
That's WZEW in Mobile, ALABAMA. A city mentioned in "Rock and Roll Doctor" (Mobile to Moline.) My Home Town!
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Post by bfb on Apr 30, 2004 14:37:38 GMT -5
I'm looking at the stations that have been "nominated" for a fan-based award. i've got to say that our local "classic rock" (no black artists need apply except for jimi) station, WARW 94.7, no longer deserves to be in the running. WRNR 103.1 in Annapolis is the hands down winner for the DC/Baltimore area (even if those of us in no.va can't get it). Cerphe, the program director at 94.7 used to play some feat, but doesn't any more. they only play feat on rare occassions, and haven't ever done much of anything to promote concerts here, as far as i can recall. having said all that, i listen to very little radio anymore, unless my kids are with me and we listen to their alternative rock stuff (gotta love the mighty pearl jam!)
keep those thinking caps on. how we gonna vote?
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Post by Scarlett on May 2, 2004 17:54:38 GMT -5
To answer the question "how are we going to vote?", I think it depends on what the final set of criteria are that we use to determine the winner. If we base it on quantitative measures only, we would not need to vote. The numbers would determine the winner. On the other hand, if we base it on some subjective criteria, that's a different story and we would need a vote. So far, the criteria seem to be quantitative. Does anyone have any thoughts about factors that may be harder to measure?
If we have a vote, I suggest we NOT do that in Jamaica, not unless there is some way to include fans who cannot be there....absentee ballot? However, it would be great to have a discussion of ideas in Jamaica.
It may be hard to consider promoters and radio stations separately. Sometimes a radio station IS the promoter.
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Post by Little Feat on May 5, 2004 6:00:06 GMT -5
I got to sit in the truck and bs with Foof during the NOLA gig. He's got XM radio in there and he told me that the channel that he listens to plays Feat all the time.
In fact, Foof calls the DJ's from the road and checks in with them. They record the conversations and then they broadcast them.
I need to ring him up and get the name of the XM channel. I know that it;s the one that the band has played live on.
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Post by bfb on May 5, 2004 10:31:43 GMT -5
Wow, I 've got to get XM radio soon. Glad to hear that so much Feat (and other tasty music) is being played and that Foof is calling in the shots from the road.
About voting, maybe we don't even need to vote. Let's just keep nominating radio stations, venues, promoters, and other worthy folks and give them a "HOY FIVE". If any of them get real excited about getting feat fan recognition, we could elevate them to a special category and give them a little feat secret decoder ring, or some feat swag from the feat store (at our cost, of course). What do you say Scot, Rick, Scarlett & friends?
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Post by Little Feat on May 5, 2004 10:46:19 GMT -5
Hey Bob,
I can feature the Media Outlets on the home page of the website too. We can run a link to a page that has all of the Honorable Mention Media Outlets type of page. If they have an online stream folks can tap into it.
I agree, voting... fogettahboutit. We can use this thread as the repository for the raw info, we can collect it, organize it and then publish it on the site.
What about Feat friendly journalists, broadcasters, artists from other disciplines? The list goes on.
Rick
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Post by Scarlett on May 5, 2004 11:16:32 GMT -5
I like the idea of giving recognition without voting too. But I don't see how the dj's/promoters/whoever would know that there is recognition to be had unless we give it to them. So, I think we should just give something to anyone we feel deserves it. Whatever we give will hopefully be a form of advertising for the band (such as a poster), or if it's a CD, hopefully it will get even more airplay. To me, it doesn't matter so much what it is as much as getting them to talk about Feat on the air...or somehow promoting the band.
How do we get Feat fans to chip in and pay for this? Someone would probably have to coordinate.
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Post by threebeards on May 5, 2004 13:28:49 GMT -5
If we decide to share the joy and love of the Little Feat fans to those who promote, play, and generally send good vibes out about our favorite musicians maybe it could serve two purposes: it could recognize the stations that deserve it and further promote our fab seven to boot. There has been a thread elsewhere about generating a freebie compilation CD to pass around to Feat virgins as an "enticement" or teaser to introduce them to the music and that's a cool move. What if someone with some artistic talent created some bitchin' artwork for the labels, covers, and tray inserts with the radio station prominently mention thereon and then send 'em gratis to the station for use as give-aways to the lucky caller number 5 (or whatever.) That way the station gets recognized for their contribution, the station has another promo item for their faithful listeners, and the band gets a chance to be introduced, hopefully, to new potential fans.
There are plenty of us out here with CD burners and tongues with which to lick stamps before applying them to mailing envelopes for distribution so it could be on the cheap with the real potential to go forth and do good. Or something like that.
TB
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Post by Little Feat on May 5, 2004 14:10:32 GMT -5
The details for the CD Sampler are at: www.littlefeat.net/on-the-road-sampler_1.htmYou can download the lossless version or it's also available in MP3 format for those who are bandwidth challenged. The artwork for the CD is also available there... Rick
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Post by Scott Hays on May 6, 2004 7:33:20 GMT -5
I like the idea of combining promotion and recognition. I haven't heard the CDSampler, yet. Nor do I have the ftp software (or the know-how) to dial up and get it ... but hey -- I just went and downloaded something called FTPCommander and will install and start the process of learning how to use it just as soon as I finish this message. Don't know if that application works on a mac or not (FTPExplorer at least took me to a page to tell me it worked with Windows), so I may not be in the ballpark, yet ... but I'm not far away. Anyway, KPIG (the station I would nominate for some type of LF recognition) gives away CD samplers all the time, as do lots of stations. Giving them a suitcase full of LF music to give away would be a natural. If the print material in the jewel case also included the station's call letters, everyone wins. But ... the page for the sampler says it is NOT to be given to deejays or radio stations. Not sure who made this decision, but it seems imperative that the band be consulted about this proposal before going any further. Giving away Little Feat music to radio stations (or other promoters, etc.) seems like something the band ought to give a stamp of approval to (even as it distances itself from the actions of its fanbase). I still like the idea of making any recognition we (the feat fanbase) gives to anyone a "special" thing, not a mass-marketing tool. This is why only a small number of recipients should be recognized at any one time. We could give 1-3, for example; and we could do it at special times -- once a year, at the beginning of a tour, following Jamaica, for the anniversary of ? (someone come up with a good occasion, please). And, besides featuring the call letters of the radio station (or the name of the venue -- a show promoter could give out 25 cds to the first 25 people in the door, through a raffle, or whatever other creative way they might find), the cd cover and/or liner notes should reflect the source of the award. Namely ... us! This is why "we" need to have some way to decide who we are recognizing. On the one hand, I like the anarchistic approach of just doing it as people nominate a station or a venue (or whatever); but I am leaning towards some mechanism for an "official" recognition based upon some type of criteria. We had to make a choice of who (or what) to recognize, so the recogntion is "special". Here is one suggestion for a mechanism -- Maybe we come up with some criteria, people make "nominations" here (and at hoyhoy), then the list is given to the POC coordinators to cast the final, deciding votes?
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Post by Little Feat on May 6, 2004 8:17:09 GMT -5
<snip,snip> But ... the page for the sampler says it is NOT to be given to deejays or radio stations. Not sure who made this decision, but it seems imperative that the band be consulted about this proposal before going any further. Giving away Little Feat music to radio stations (or other promoters, etc.) seems like something the band ought to give a stamp of approval to (even as it distances itself from the actions of its fanbase). Scott, the band made the decision. This concept of a sampler introduction to the live music of Little Feat came about through discussions between the band and folks in the Grassroots. They (the band) laid out the parameters. When it comes to radio stations/DJs, etc, you’re involved in the “business” of Little Feat. They have professional people that cover these arenas and they have had more than one bad experience from the efforts of overzealous fans. It’s a specific request of the band that the Grassroots do not get involved.
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Post by Scott Hays on May 9, 2004 9:09:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, Rick. It had been suggested earlier in the thread that the Sampler (or something like it) be used as a means to honor a station by providing them with something they could give away that would promote both the band and the station (the CD Sampler -- or something like it -- renamed to reflect its purpose: "Little Feat Fanbase and KPIG Present ..."). I was asking for some clarification before that idea took root, because I thought the disclaimer for the Sampler was pretty clear. You have made it very clear what can (and cannot be done) with the Sampler.
Still ... the idea is intriguing. Maybe there is something else a radio station could distribute (or do) that promotes both itself and the band that doesn't involve the actual music, and which might serve as an "award" or an "honor" to the station from the featfan base. I come up empty, here ... but promotion is something a lot of people reading this are good at providing. Any thoughts?
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Post by threebeards on May 10, 2004 7:50:37 GMT -5
We could still do something along these lines but use a mail-in coupon that the station could award that would be good for one free sampler CD. The music could be provided by us true believers, be sent directly to the lucky winners, and bypass the station itself. That way the station could still get some good press, people can get a taste of the Feat, and the band gets some promotion (and hopefully an ever-widening fan-base to draw from. It is a bit less streamlined but still doable without the station in question ever having the CD in their hands.
Someone within the Little Feat administration empire could send an e-mail to those of us willing to burn and mail the sample and then we could take it from there.
TB
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Post by Little Feat on May 16, 2004 8:41:35 GMT -5
Scott wrote: <snip,snip> It would be nice to continue this ad hoc, anarchistic nomination process (how fitting for the LF fan-base) ... I for one am looking to see if we can't formalize it a little more. <snip,snip> I agree. I think that this information translates into nice information to be putting on the website. I like it because it gets us out past the immediate Little Feat community and into the broader community of good damned music. Scott has done an excellent job summarizing the info. If we can wrangle up a couple of people that can help format this for the website, I can get it up there. I can help some, but we're in the process of major changes on the Feat site and I'm up to my eyeballs right now. It's easy enough to do. I can supply the page templates and someone can plug in the info. We can put it all up there at one time or make an ongoing "regular feature" out of it and do a couple 3 stations a month. Rick
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Post by Scott Hays on May 22, 2004 10:50:33 GMT -5
Well ... I suggested the idea and certainly don't mind taking the next step. School ends for me on June 11, though I have been called to jury duty on the 14th. Depending on how that goes, I will actually have a little free time on my hands. Assuming the templates are easy to use, I will complete them for you. I am also open to deferring to anyone else that wants to step up here ... but if no one responds sooner than mid-June, send me whatever needs to be done (and any directions that aren't self-explanatory).
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